You know, it's conversations like the one onJames Nicoll's livejournal that inspired my slow drift out of organized SF fandom. So much bile, so much dogmatism, so much elitist bile directed at the populist dogmatism of others, so much naked contempt. It's all so... miserable. I'm miserable enough on my own, thank you very much. One of the essentially good things about anime and manga fandom is that all of the innate optimism and sunny good-naturedness of the younger fan hasn't yet been washed out in the inevitable flood of the noxious output of the aging, irate, and defeated.

And manifestos are pure poison. What the hell is dogma, but the accumulation of successful manifesto-mongering? If I wanted dogma, I'd join the Catholic Church.